Welcome to the Adaptive Mindset. I'm Brett Gallant, cybersecurity thought leader and founder of Adaptive Office Solutions. Here, we don't just talk tech, we unlock the strategies, stories, and mindset shifts you need to stay secure, lead boldly, and thrive in a digital world. Let's get started. Welcome Today, I'm joined by Judy Gaman, CEO of Executive Medicine of Texas, award-winning author, national speaker, and host of the Stay Young America podcast. Judy has spent years working with high-performing executives, business owners, and professionals who look successful on the outside, but are often running on empty behind the scenes. Her work focuses on longevity, preventative care, and helping leaders perform at a high level without sacrificing their health, energy, or purpose. In this conversation, we're going to talk about why longevity is a leadership strategy, the blind spots high achievers often miss, and how leaders can think long-term about their health the same way that they think about risk, performance, and sustainability in their businesses. This is a practical, grounded conversation for anyone who wants to win the long game, personally and professionally. It's such a pleasure to have you. I want to ask you this, Judy, before we dive into leadership and longevity, I'd like to start with your story. What led you into this work and what made you passionate about helping people Well, you know, it really goes back to when I was 16, my first job, which was a very hard job was to be a nursing assistant in a nursing home. And I got to see firsthand at a very young age. what it looks like to age poorly. And I knew that was something I certainly didn't want to do and I didn't want to have for myself. And I didn't want other people to have that if it was at all avoidable. And I kind of carried that experience with me for years. And I couldn't be more pleased with where I found myself now as the CEO of Executive Medicine of Texas because we're able to get people in their 30s, 40s, 50s, what have you, and make sure that they know and understand their health status, and then take the steps to ensure that they are gonna have a long and healthy life, and that they're doing everything they can to Yeah, that's beautiful. I had a guest on the podcast a number of episodes ago. And he shared with me health as well. And I believe a lot of times we often neglect that to put ourselves, prioritize our health, prioritize putting ourselves first. A lot of business owners I speak to, they put everything else first, but they don't take time for themselves in looking at the honest truth about where their health is. So was there a moment when you realized that there was a systematic issue with, like, when did you, like, was there a moment where Well, I think for me personally, it was just kind of watching what was going on around me, but things certainly had to change in the healthcare industry. I spent much of my career in what I like to call the HMO treadmill world, where the decisions are being made by insurance companies and the patient isn't really given enough time to sit down with their healthcare provider and really understand what's going on with them. And people would bring in like these lists, right? They'd have these lists and you're only gonna address what's on the list. And I'd stand in the room with physicians that I think just really felt like their hands were tied. And a lot of times it was like, okay, well, your list is really like a two hour appointment and you're in a 15 minute slot, so let's prioritize. And watching this in real time, and knowing these people might not come back, but the doctors couldn't make it work. They couldn't run a business unless it was built on quantity, because the expenses of chasing after the insurance company, having a business office completely dedicated to that, and then the reimbursement rates from the insurance companies, which are kind of changing all the time and Medicare and such, they were all over the place. It was extremely chaotic and the doctors were losing, the patients were losing, and it just was such a broken system. And two of the founders of executive medicine, one is my husband, Dr. Walter Gamm, the other one is Dr. Mark Anderson. They literally had a moment where they were like, I don't know if this is really what I signed up for when I went to medical school. And I'm not getting any satisfaction with one hand on the door and the other one trying to service the patient and talk to the patient and knowing that there's five more people down the hall. And they just were so fed up. And then as the system continued to change and the demands on the healthcare providers became even greater, They said, okay, nobody's winning. What do we wanna do? There was a moment where we thought that Dr. Anderson would just ride his Harley off into the sunset and Dr. Gamble might just go become a math teacher or something because he's always loved math and been great in math and has a degree in that as well. But both of them had fallen out of love with medicine, fallen out of love with something that they had given their life and their careers to. literally a napkin idea in a cafe one morning, sat down and said, all right, if we could do this differently, what would it look like? And they started making a list. And it was really a conversation about saving themselves, saving the patients, and Then at the end, it was like, oh, well, why don't we just do this? And this was 20 years ago when concierge medicine wasn't really a thing as much as it is now. And it wasn't like how it is with insurance, you know, you hang a shingle and they will come. And if your last name starts with a, you're at the top of the HMO book. It was literally, we're going to take a leap of faith and we're going to say, Hey, you know what? we believe there's a better way. And that's what started executive medicine. And I love that we have just grown from those two founders doing it part-time while they were still trying to run their other practice to coming over full-time to growing it to where we are today. And it's just mind-blowing to me that when you have something that the patients need and want, and quite frankly deserve, they will come and they are so grateful. They're just so grateful. And here you have a complete different thing where the patients are happy, the employees are happy, the doctors are happy, and everybody knows that patients come in and they say, wow, I don't think I've ever been to a doctor's office where everyone's happy to be here. And we really are. And I love that we could make a bit of a difference in Yeah, that's amazing. Especially when you have that whole culture and dynamic going on, it's a rare entity in any organization with some of today's realities and challenges. How's the journey been along the way since the founding? Any Yeah, I think in 2005, it was a little bit of a struggle because we didn't have the doctors there full time. And it was a time, it was a couple of years there where the doctors were funding this idea they had. and waiting for it to kind of catch on and to be able to spend as much time there as they could and still run the practice that was funding this practice. I think those moments really shaped us because we really appreciated every single person that walked through the door. Every person who said, you know what? I'm gonna have a dog in this hunt. I'm willing to pay out of my pocket for this because I see value in it. I remember those days. I think those were really special. Some recent things that I think really shape my memory of why this is beyond just a doctor's office, and the things I think I'll look back on very fondly. There's one that comes to mind, there's several of them, but this one really speaks to the we-see-you model. All of our employees do something we call book club. So we'll all be reading a particular book together. And one of the books that we read was Unreasonable Hospitality. And I don't know if you've read this book. It really was written by somebody in the restaurant business, but it really crosses all different backgrounds, all different businesses. And it's really about seeing your customer and and appreciating that customer and going above and beyond. And our patient, our staff really took that to heart. So they started looking for ways that they could have unreasonable hospitality. They could really go above and beyond. And we've always been good at listening to patients, but this particular day we had one of our patients in and he spoke about his son. He was really disheartened and, and One of the nurses said, you know, you don't see him yourself, what's going on? He said, oh, my son's having surgery tomorrow. And she just said, tell me more about your son. And as they had this conversation, she happened to learn that the son was a huge Texas Rangers fan. And we called the dad afterwards and said, you know, I wonder if your son would like to be visited by one of our other patients. And we kind of describe what we what we would do. And, and the dad was just beside himself and said, Wow, oh, my gosh, you know, we can't call them and talk to them unless, you know, we have your permission. Oh, absolutely. So this particular Texas Ranger person went out and took memorabilia, signed cards, really made that really tough time in that family's life just a little bit better. And that's more of what we want. We want to see our patients. We want to see them, their struggles. How can we help them? How can we lift their burden a little bit? And all of our staff is on board with that. I mean, that's just kind of one of them. That's one of my favorites because it Yeah. No, I need to hear that unreasonable hospitality. What Oh, my goodness. I just seen an example of, well, tremendous kindness. I don't know why I want to share this story with you, but I'm going to share it with you right now. In my community, I live in Canada, so we do have access. Healthcare is generally free. But sometimes when we have difficult challenges, we have to go outside of the country or go to other specialists. There's a young lady, she's under 18, and she needed a special treatment for her heart. She's had multiple heart attacks. And we found out, the community found out that she needed $80,000 to get a special treatment. And my community version of unreasonable hospitality The whole community pitched in, businesses chipped in $1,000 each. There was a GoFundMe, and they raised $80,000 in less than 72 hours in a small town of 18,000. So that's not completely relevant, but unreasonable hospitality of what you just shared. I think the world needs to do more of that. Incredible. Have there been other times that have stood out Yeah, I definitely think so. There's been times where we were really on the cutting edge, like we were doing virtual colonography before it was even a thing. You know, we had, speaking of Canada, because my husband's from Canada, he practiced in Manitoba for many years before he came to the States. And when the Canadian system started looking at maybe doing this, and we had had it, I don't know, a good 10 years, that came Um, some, some people came from Canada to train, um, at our facility. And it was, it was really fascinating to kind of see that come full circle where we're here. We're doing some things that are a little more advanced and then we're able to train. Um, some other physicians on, on that advancement, but one of the really cool things about doing the virtual colonography, which is another one of these neat stories is we had a patient. And he was in his forties. So normally when we think about colon cancer, we don't really think about somebody being in their forties. And this particular patient was on a Southwest airlines flight, and there was a magazine in the back. Now they don't have magazines on their lines, but there was a magazine at the time. And the An ad, it wasn't even our ad, was there for executive physicals, these half-day exams and such. And he reached out to his executive assistant and said, you know, I didn't sleep all night. I saw this ad. I don't know why. I can't get it out of my head, but I just feel like I really need to have one of these physicals. Find me the best place to go. So this particular executive assistant called around and asked a lot of questions, called back, and then said, OK, you guys are the only ones doing this virtual colonography. you know, he said, find me the most comprehensive exam. So I'd like to book him with with you all. So he gets booked with us. And when we do the virtual colonography, it's a colonoscopy, but it's done on a CT machine. And instead of a long 60 centimeter tube, it's about four inches goes in, it's The, the columns inflated but we're actually able to see the inside of the colon, the outside of the colon, and because it includes a CT of the pelvis we can see within the pelvis. were shocked to find out that unbeknownst to him, he had tailbone cancer. And we found it on this virtual colonography. The one thing that the assistant just was adamant that she should add, which a lot of times you'll hear like, well, you're 40 years old, you don't need this. Now we've actually found a lot of colon cancer in 40 year olds, some in 30 year olds. So that argument's out the window. But for this particular executive assistant, just was really hung up on this. It's one of those things where you think this guy really had guardian angel because he saw that ad, he listened to that prompting, wasn't our ad, the assistant called around, chose us, he ended up getting this particular test, which at the time we were the only one offering it. And It was incredible that it saved his life. So within two days of him coming in for that exam, he was in for surgery. And by the end of the week, he was out playing baseball with his kids again. And he just never in his wildest dreams would have imagined the day before he picked up that magazine Incredible. And just changed his A lot of times we don't find things like tailbone cancer until they've spread elsewhere. And then the story Yeah, all kinds of challenges in different ways and different outcomes, unfortunately. One of the things, looking at your profile, one of the things that has stood out to me is how often leaders separate health from their performance, even though they're deeply connected. And we take this for granted. And I know this just because of my own personal journey. Why do you believe longevity should Oh, I love the way you worded that question. And it is almost like a quotable question. It is absolutely side by side. If you look at your business and you're saying, OK, I've got this company and I want to grow it, you're never saying, let's just be successful today. You're not, you're looking forward. Where are we going to be in a year? Where are we going to be in three years, five years, 10 years? What's the exit strategy? You're looking at this business as a whole. Yet so many times executives, they have what we like to term ostrich syndrome. They stick their head in the sands. They're like, I feel good today, you know, and they never look further to say, what am I going to feel like in three years, five years? And that you can't, you know, the mirror doesn't tell the story. You can't get the answer to that question unless you do a deep dive, unless you get all of these metrics together. You run your company, you look at metrics, you know, where you were, where you're going, where your pitfalls are, you know, where your danger zones are. You have to do this with your own body. And as far as leadership, you know, you have to learn how to lead your own health and your own body. and take personal responsibility. Part of that is saying, I'm going to figure out where I am and where I wanna go, gotta have a goal. And the goal's not always the same for everybody. We have some people come in and say, okay, my dad died at 59, I don't wanna have a heart attack at 59. That's their goal. Okay, we can deal with that. We have other people come in and say, I wanna run a 10K by Christmas next year. Okay, let's look at that. Everybody's goal's different. And I think that really gets back to, saying, all right, who, who are you and as an individual, and what do you want out of this visit? What do you want from us? And how can we help you with what you want to achieve? It's so often in medicine, it's you get pigeonholed, you know, oh, you know, you're a female age, whatever, here's what we do for you. You're a male age, whatever, here's what we do for you. And there's, there's never any kind of camaraderie between the patient and the doctor. There's not a let's get a plan together, and let's figure out what your main goal is. So I do think, man, longevity and leadership Yeah, I've heard it said I'm in Dan Martell's coaching program, and he said belt buckles down while it's up. And I do know just from my own journey, having released 150 pounds, I was 349. And so it's changed how I lead, how I show up. Because when I started making myself a priority, a byproduct of that, I also started making my business a priority. Isn't that interesting? It is so interesting, and it's so much of what we see. And I think that's why we do so well in our corporate agreements, because the corporations know this. They know if they have healthy executives, healthy team members, they are going to have a healthier company, because healthy businesses start with healthy leadership. It's just a known fact. This is why they're shelling out money and saying, look, give them what they need, because it's in our best interest as a company to have them healthy. And if a company is willing to do that, think about even if maybe someone's listening right now and they're like, well, I'm not in the C-suite or I don't own my own business. And they're listening to this. Well, you have a family to run. You have a life to run. You need to be really good at the job that you do. And then start thinking about what does my life look like in three years, five years, 10 years? And what's that Yeah. Yeah. And we, a lot of times we have it all wrong. And it's great that businesses are recognizing that, that health is a priority, not just, and I know we're talking about physical, but I think a by-product of, of taking care of ourselves and investing in ourselves, like what, what people can do with your organization, by-product of that is also mental wellbeing. Because when you feel good, when your health is good, you feel good. And it's about legacy, too. Because when you feel good and your health is good, you start thinking, how do I want to leave this world better? We've seen people come to us. And I was just thinking about another case. This is a fascinating story. It was a lawyer. And he was a highly successful lawyer, highly regarded lawyer. And he was in his 60s. And he came and he said, you know, I just think I'm going to retire. And Like, yeah, you're 60. But you're at the top of your game, you know? And he's like, I don't know what's going on. But I just know that I've just lost my mojo. And we're like, okay, let's get to the bottom of this. And during his executive physical, we do something called a carotid Doppler. And we're basically looking for intimal thickening here in the carotid arteries, which could lead to stroke risk. And because we were looking at that, we happened to see the thyroid. And if the thyroid's enlarged or there's a nodule or something, it often shows up on these. And sure enough, he had a massive growth on his thyroid behind it. So it wasn't like it was sticking out in front and obvious. And then we send a head, a head and neck surgeon. They went in, they took it out and it wasn't cancerous, but it was a very specific type of tumor that releases basically like toxins in the body. And this is why he had lost his energy. This is why he couldn't focus. This is why he just, as he's put it, lost his mojo. So he went through surgery, got that removed. He had the best like next five years. He said, I feel like I'm 40, not 60. And he just really, even though we knew he didn't feel good, he didn't realize how much that ailment had completely overtaken Well, he couldn't even see it. Yeah. And you can't identify it. And sometimes we don't know. And it was a physical. It was a symptom. It wasn't mental. It was something in his body. He didn't know. And had he not gone to you, he would never have known. And he would have kept his mojo. gone. So, I mean, he probably would have died young because, you know, once that depression sets in and you're still active and such, I mean, it's, it's a downhill spiral. So that, that really just, I just, I love that story because it's one of those where you can't really put your finger on it, but you know, something's up and, and boy, these, these tests, they just, It like both those stories I just shared, you know, the guy wanted the colonography because he wanted to look at his colon, but he found something on his tailbone. You know, this particular one, we were looking at the carotid arteries, but we happen to see something on the thyroid. So I never put those two and two together until just now, but it is interesting that sometimes we find things that we weren't necessarily looking for. Now we're talking about big drastic things though. Yeah. They're not always that big and they're not always that drastic. Sometimes we just see, oh, you have a vitamin D deficiency that explains a lot, you know? Yeah. Or your, your B12s off, maybe it's too high. We've seen that people take too many supplements and we're like, okay, this explains a lot. You know, those heart palpitations you're having probably because you're taking this, the supplement you're over, overusing the B vitamins and people say, oh, well, you know, you just, And so many doctors say, oh, you just pee them out. Well, yes, but when your levels are too high, you can have side effects and such in the meantime. So sometimes it's just simple little fixes and sometimes it's big things, but I, I love what we do. We're so passionate about it because we just have seen the changes in people's lives and I love this episode because I know we're going to inspire people to take action on their health in ways that they may not have considered. And what we were just talking about, what you touched on for a moment was really blind spots in high performers. We don't really know them, we can't really see them. So you work with people who are driven, disciplined, and successful. Looking back at what we just shared and what you just shared, what blind spots do high performers tend to have when it comes to Well, there's a lot, especially if they travel a lot, you know, we see this so much, they, they travel, they go, go, go, go, go, but they're not doing some things that are, that are really simple and they seem very elementary. Like they're not staying hydrated at the rate they should. So we give them the formula. Okay. This is how much water, water you need for your body weight and for your travel schedule. It's it changes with everybody, but things like that, because chronic dehydration can have lasting effects on the kidneys and on the brain and the brain is mostly made up of water. So I think that's definitely something that we see a lot of a pitfall. Hormones are another pitfall. People don't realize that these hormone shifts in age and it's not, for men, people say, oh, I gotta up my testosterone because I want a better sex life. Yeah, that's great. That's part of it. But there's a lot more than just your sex life. How are you gonna heal after surgery? You're gonna heal a lot better if your testosterone is optimized. How is your muscle mass going to be, which is gonna keep you from falling later because you're gonna be able to You know, hold yourself up. We all know once you start falling and you lose that stability, that's a big indicator for decline. So there are some of these things that, especially in men, that happen. And the travel is one of sleep is another one. We really dive into people's sleep. because they could have sleep apnea, which is a killer. I mean, people are like, oh, you just snore. That's annoying. Well, it's more than annoying. You can die from it. People also don't understand that when we sleep, and we now know this with functional MRI, which is being used in the universities and for research purposes, that when we sleep, our brain actually washes itself like a washing machine, but we have to get into a really deep REM sleep. And when you think about sleep and you think about the REM cycle, the longer you're asleep, the longer the REM cycle is. So if you're getting up, every three, two, three hours, you're never going to get into that deep sleep, that deep REM sleep that you need to actually have that brain washed and to clear out all that. And then you're putting yourself at risk for dementia and Alzheimer's. So we say, okay, what are the things that wake people up? If nobody's dressing this, you know, is it BPH? the prostate BPH, but I have a prosthetic hypertrophy. Or is it that you have an animal that sleeps in your bed, a dog or a cat? These are questions that we ask our patients. All of these things can keep you awake. Is your room temperature too warm? Because we know that you sleep deeper in a cool room. Are you looking at your phone before bed or right when you wake up? That's actually going to mess up your circadian rhythm. But these things in a traditional model of medicine where you have 15 minutes with a patient and you're not able to take the time to really ask and teach, educate. This is again, where I feel that medicine falls down because if you can take a patient and have these kinds of conversations about them and about how to optimize their health, you're not just affecting them, you're affecting their children and their spouse and their children's children. This Oh, it's so true. And I'm thinking of this, how it applies here, The doctors, there's, in my community, there's 4,000, I would argue probably more that don't have a family doctor. And you're lucky to see your doctor. And you mentioned 15 minutes. And it's not 15 minutes. Sometimes it's five. And that's the reality of So how can we cover all the bases? It's just it's just putting a Band-Aid on on it. And what your what your approach is a whole level approach I want to ask you, how does stress show up physically Wow, stress is one of those things that if you take a diagram of the human body and say, you're gonna draw a line out from each part of the body that stress affects, it's going to look like one of those voodoo pin cushion dolls because it literally affects so much. Stress affects the brain and cognition and the executive decision-making that happens in the brain. It also affects sleep greatly. We always tell our patients the positive attributes of journaling. So whether that's a prayer journal or it's a diary of sorts or it's any kind of journaling before they go to bed to actually have a spiral or something next to the bed, they just write this out, whatever it is that's on their heart and their mind, because it's almost like a computer dump If you don't close all the windows, your computer eventually doesn't function right. You got to close the loops. And it also allows you to go to sleep because there's something you are like, I'm so afraid I'm going to forget this. It interrupts your sleep so much. So we always tell people, look, if you want to reduce stress, keep a journal, keep it by your bedside and make it a nightly routine. You know, as we kind of work down the body, you could have TMJ where you could actually have jaw pain because you're clenching your teeth. And maybe you're doing this in your sleep. Maybe you're doing this when you're awake, but we've seen that we've seen dental issues from stress. Of course, we know about chest pain and the risk for heart disease, uh, when the, when stress is high and, and then the, even the, um, Bowels, we see issues that people have either constipation or diarrhea related to stress. Stress can make it to where you. don't want to exercise. Ironically, exercise is the best thing you can do for stress, but you just feel so tense that you can't imagine going to the gym. It seems so foreign. So we do tell people our bodies are designed to release stress physically. This is why when we Any moons ago, hunting for our food and shopping our own wood and carrying buckets of water there, we were able to endure so much more because there was that outlet. And now the simplest And I see it so often with people I talk to, but I was that person before. I wouldn't even take 20 minutes to go for a walk. And now I know that you can take, everybody has 20 minutes. We often say that we don't have the time, but everybody has time. We just don't prioritize it. So for me, as soon as the children get on the bus, I'll go for 20 minutes to go around the neighborhood, get the oxygen going. And if everything's crazy in the day, I'll take off for 20 minutes and go for a walk anyways, cause it's the best thing I can do. And we, and we say to ourselves, I don't have time, but you can't You can't afford not to. And I love that you're doing this. I love when you say, and the kids get on the bus, that means you're doing it in the morning. This, what you're doing, if you could get all of your listeners to do the dramatic change they would have in their life, like they can't even see it now, but I promise they would be thinking clearer. They would be happier at home. They'd be sleeping better. all of these things because they took that 20 minutes. Now, there's a lot of research, too, that a 20 minute brisk walk is as effective as taking a Prozac. And what happened in the 90s, everybody got put on these antidepressants and it was like, oh, you're sad. Oh, you're this, you're that. Let me give you some medication. And then That, you know, not being the optimal choice, exercise would have been the optimal choice, had the other side effects. They were putting on weight. They were increasing what they were eating and craving carbs and all kinds of things with, and I'm not just picking on Prozac, just antidepressants in general. So I love that you're talking about that walk. And when you said something that really resonated with me, Brett, is, Everybody has the same 24 hours in the day. Everybody. It's just how do you choose to prioritize your 24 hours? I mean, It's true. And I've even tied it into daily rhythms of what's possible. And I know one time when we were doing in a mastermind that I've been a member of, often in masterminds, we were doing a deep dive on somebody's business, and we'd have 15 half an hour breaks. I would purposely get outside and go for a walk around the neighborhood. And what was really interesting about that, I shared that with the lady that was in the group, the facilitator. And when she heard that I did, I said that 15 to 20 minute analogy, she started doing it. and Good for her. See, I love how you're inspiring people Yeah, yeah. And this is the thing, that prevention starts with a decision. And it's the decision of your 20 minutes, but it's also the decision to seek and make a decision and prioritize your health, your self care. It's no So we've been talking just for the last minute or two about being proactive instead of reactive, like the parallels here are pretty striking. If leaders treated their health risks the same way as they treat financial or cybersecurity risks, what would change? And I bring up cybersecurity because that's what I do. But what would change if they really made that decision Well, first of all, I think they'd have a sense of urgency. And they'd put themselves on their calendar. That's huge. We encourage our patients, put yourself on your calendar and make those non-negotiable. Maybe it's that 20 minute walk. Maybe it's that eight hours of sleep. Maybe it's red light therapy. Maybe it's whatever it is, put it on the calendar and it's non-negotiable. And I really believe that it's to your point, if they treated their own body and their own health that way, these are the things they would do. And they would try to understand it. because you know you can't run a business if you don't understand it. And so they try to understand themselves a little bit better and really get those numbers and really deep dive into, okay, where am I at? It's another, you know, we talked a minute ago about how this is a multi-generational thing. We've seen, we have something called the family coxears. So we have couples. So we had seen that when the couples would come in, And they both leave with their leather binders with all their results, you know, 40, 50 pages of everything about them, graphs and charts and everything. And when they were doing this together, we saw an incredible amount of enthusiasm around it. And we also saw that the next year when they came back, they were so excited together to share their progress. So we started doing something called Family Concierge, which actually was at a, a recommendation by one of our patients years ago said, well, can you see my whole family? Like I can't, I can no longer go to the pediatrician's office and do the racket. You know, we can see you next Tuesday at two o'clock. If you can't do that, it's going to be six weeks. And, and so we started the, the family concierge and what we've seen is families getting healthier together. And parents actually being mentors to their kids. And sometimes these are young kids. Sometimes they're teenagers. And they're saying, OK, we're going to do this together. Everyone's on the same page. It's beautiful. Now, in 2026, we rolled out. And this was an interesting concept. So we've just rolled this out within a matter of weeks. The multi-generational concierge, because we had people that say, okay, you see my kids, you see my spouse and I, but I've got these aging parents and I don't even know what to do or where to start. And so now we see the three generations and it's beautiful because for several of our doctors or family practice, we've got an internist, we just hired an ortho as well, but several of our patients really want to get healthy and understand the ins and outs of their parents, how slick and best be their advocate. But our doctors love it because being family practitioners, especially, we'll take Walter, who was in Canada for years delivering his own babies, you know, because in Canada, family practice does a lot. He's been able to do that here in the States, not deliver babies, but continue with this more global approach because that's his experience. And really, I think, again, it goes back to the win-win. It's a win for the patients. It's a win for the doctors. And in a lot of ways, it's a win for the system because if we can keep them healthy, Medicare and the insurance companies, they're not paying. ridiculous reimbursements for But if the family's healthy, there's so many other wins that we're not even talking about. The whole dynamic of being there for each other and supporting and not having the anxiety about worrying about mom or grandma, knowing that you know the plan, the steps, you know what you're dealing with, or they've gotten the appropriate For me and the mental health of the person in the sandwich generation, the mental health of the person who's like, I'm trying to deal with my kids, my family, my parents, and I don't even know what We haven't even really talked about that. But mental health. Absolutely. And just a byproduct of that, though, everyone, and we said it already, the 20 minutes, just taking a walk, 20 minutes, and looking at the whole body and not just physically, the mental, game changer. Absolute Judy, I had such an incredible time speaking with you today. I want to make sure that we make sure our audience knows Yeah, sure. I mean, I think the best way is to go to emtexas.com. That's executive medicine. So emtexas.com. And Yeah, they can follow us. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram, all those places. Very easy search for us. And then also, we have a podcast called Stay Young America. So anywhere you get podcasts, you can find us there. We know that our mission is to educate and to help as many people as possible. And so we, over the years, have had radio show podcasts and such, but anyone can go and find Stay Young America podcast and can download some of those episodes and listen Perfect. We'll make sure that we have that in the show notes, Judy. Um, I want to end with a rapid fire round questions for Okay. Um, just first thing that comes to your head and your heart morning routine or evening routine for you morning morning. Okay. Uh, one daily habit with the biggest health return walking. Most overlooked health metric for leaders, mental health, coffee, friend or So put you on If you had to choose one exercise, biggest myth about aging. Say it again. Biggest myth about aging? That you don't have a choice. We all have a choice, don't we? One behavior leaders need to stop normalizing. Not sleeping. One thing leaders should start doing this week, this minute. Journaling. Yes, thank you for this. I needed to hear that. A book you recommend most to executives? Oh, gosh, there's so many good ones. Recently, we've been talking a lot about Yeah, I'm going to check that out. Okay, last question. Finish this sentence. Attitude. Attitude. Everyone, To our listeners listening today, do you decide to make just one change after hearing this conversation? And you've been inspired with what Judy has shared. Please, please share this episode with one or two people you know that this could impact them. And reach out to Judy and thank her and check out the wonderful resources she's shared. Connect with her on social media. listen to the podcast, benefit from it. And I know I certainly have benefited from this conversation. Judy, I want to thank you again. It was such a pleasure to have this Brett, it's been an honor. Thank you so much for having me on. I enjoyed my time with Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for tuning into the Adaptive Mindset. If you found value in today's episode, don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who's ready to thrive in the digital age. Stay secure,