Welcome to the Adaptive Mindset. I'm Brett Gallant, cybersecurity thought leader and founder of Adaptive Office Solutions. Here, we don't just talk tech, we unlock the strategies, stories, and mindset shifts you need to stay secure, lead boldly, and thrive in a digital world. Let's get started. Welcome Some people find rock bottom, but my guest today discovered that rock bottom at a basement. The guest is Kevin, Kevin Palmieri. And in his mid 20s, he looked like he had it all. Sports car, the dream body, the high paying job, even a beautiful relationship. But behind the surface, he was sitting on the edge of a bed, baiting suicide. That moment became the turning point. He went all in on holistic self-improvement. And years later, he now hosts a podcast impacting hundreds of thousands of people across the world. He's recorded over 3,000 episodes, built a $1 million plus business, and has spoken and coached globally. But the thing that changed him the most, himself. And today we're diving into what it really takes to transform your life, why consistency is the ultimate edge, and the mindset shifts that separate people who stay stuck from those who build the life they're meant for. Kevin, Brett, thank you so very much for having me. I hope I can live up to the introduction. And Oh, hey, I'm quite confident of that. Just on my own, I actually had the great pleasure of listening to Kevin's podcast from time to time. And we'll definitely link that in the notes. And you'll always go away from every episode, being uplifted and learning something. and a little bit of craziness sometimes too, which is always good, which I love. I'm a big fan of crazy good. Kevin, let's dig into this for a bit. Can you take us back to that moment where everything looked perfect on the outside, but Yeah, I think a lot of it, unfortunately, was by design, right? I was somebody who didn't have a lot of self-belief. I was somebody who didn't have a lot of self-worth. And in my mind, if I just became quote-unquote successful externally, nobody would ever really know how I felt about myself. So as you alluded to, I was in my mid-20s. I had a girlfriend that was a model. I was getting ready to compete in a bodybuilding show. So I was quite literally in the best shape I will ever be in. six-figure income, sports car, new apartment, all the things. And a couple years later, I ended up sitting on the edge of a bed thinking to myself that if I just took my life, I would take all my problems with me. And I think it's a common thing where we fall into the trap of thinking external results will fix internal voids. And if anything, my story is a really good example and a warning What was the first step you took after that? Essentially, I became obsessed with self-awareness. So I think for a lot of us, we think the reason I am where I am today is based on what I did yesterday. The reason I was where I was was not based on what I did yesterday. It was based on the years and years and years of running from the truth. So I went on a journey of trying to discover who I was through therapy, through coaching, through meditation, through journaling, through habits. I became obsessed with figuring out who I actually am because you can't influence something you don't understand. So the simplest form, I got a coach, I started reading books, I started journaling, and I started to be intentional with the habits that I was practicing and whether or Perfect. So, I can relate to that in so many ways. Most of our listeners, and I think just about anybody can. So, what's interesting about that, I've committed to having some daily non-negotiables for myself. and got a little bit playful with it a little bit too, because I made some non-negotiables, which were negotiable. There's an oxymoron, but I did something interesting for the last week or two. I did something, we're gonna take this for a little tilt here for a second. I decided that I'm gonna live up to my standards. And part of it to keep me accountable, you mentioned a coach, I too value coaching. I have a number of coaches, coaches for fitness, business, cybersecurity, and they've all mean so much to me. But what I did with AI after watching something on YouTube, I made AI be my own personal assistant. And I made an accountability coach for my my non-negotiables, which are no longer negotiable. I'm curious what some of your habits are Yeah. So exercise is not necessarily a non-negotiable for me because today's a good example. I slept terrible. I want to prioritize sleep. I'll try to get some movement in today, but I would rather get eight hours of sleep and exercise, but if I could choose, I wanna make sure I get eight hours of sleep and I'll try to fit in exercise. Non-negotiables, every day I look at our bank account. Every single day I track our finances. Every single day I weigh myself. Every single day I learn for at least 30 minutes, whether it's audio books, TED talks, YouTube, coaching, podcasts, whatever it is. Every single night before I go to bed, my wife and I play the gratitude game. So we both say one thing that we're grateful for about one another. I could not tell you the last of the time we miss that. And if we miss it, we just do two the next day. So we are, I mean, we've been doing that for a long time. I didn't create it. Of course it's yours now. Okay, it is It's yours. The simplest way is I try to do something under health, something under wealth, and something under love, and I make sure that I have one of those that's a non-negotiable. Because realistically, I want to be the healthiest, wealthiest, most in love version of myself, right? So if I actually want that, my habits have to prove that. So yeah, those are a couple examples. We do a podcast episode every day. That's one that's not relatable to most people because you're not a podcaster, but simple, simple, nothing sexy, nothing insane, nothing unsustainable. Discipline to do it, but it started from a place of what was sustainable. What was sustainable for me in the beginning was like 10 minutes of learning. Awesome. And then that went up and it went up and it went up. So yeah, those are some examples of the habits I Oh, nice. I love it. I have a couple of similar ones. So those are interesting. I had the reading. And when I'm in the gym, I actually love listening to podcasts or YouTube videos. Sometimes it's yours. I appreciate it. Yeah. So there's a nice plug. So as a person who's done 3000 podcast episodes, Okay, and we talked about habits here for a moment. Why is Essentially, you said it earlier. You said it's kind of the, it's the edge, right? Consistency is an edge that is very hard to replicate. So, number one, what you do most often, you will get the best at. Simply put, if I am better at anything, it's probably because I've done it more. That's it. I just have more reps under my belt. That's one part. The second part is, You learn so much through the process and without the consistency, you don't really get the experience of knowing what it's like to be bad at the thing, better at the thing, good at the thing, and that process starts all over again. I went back and looked at our 1,000th podcast episode. It was terrible. It was absolutely terrible compared to 2,000. Compared to 500, Brett, it was world class. I'm going to look back at 2000 and I'm going to think that's garbage too, eventually. Right? So consistency reveals growth. From day to day, progress is essentially invisible, but from year to year, progress is impossible to miss. That's a reason why consistency is so important. And then I think the last thing is, it eventually attaches to your identity. When you do something consistently long enough, it becomes who you are, and it's harder for you not to do the thing. I cannot imagine not tracking habits at this point. I cannot fathom a life without me tracking habits, but I've been doing it for eight years, so it makes sense, right? So it's really all of those things. Best example, if I sat you down, let me ask this first, can you do I like to ask because this has blown up in my face before. If I sat you down and said, hey, I'll give you a million dollars if you can do the splits this time next year. Logically, you're probably going to think, well, I better practice every day if I want that to happen. The likelihood of you doing the splits decreases as the consistency decreases. Yes, that that is why consistency is so important, because consistency is the one thing that you can control that will help you or One of my coaches said says this religiously, and I repeat it often now myself. Consistency compounds. And for me, I relate to that with the sharing of your podcast episodes. I was looking at some old reels that I did on Facebook and Instagram. How'd that feel? the thoughts, all that, like all over the place, the ums, the ahs, not looking at the screen, the beard, 120 pounds heavier. So it's like night and day. But when you put the reps in, it becomes easier and people say, how do you do it? Well, at one point I stumbled and even with the podcast episode, just I'm still relatively new. But I can relate to that because even the first podcast episode that I did, while it was really good. Everything gets rhythm when you consistently do something, you're putting the That is it in a nutshell. And I think that's the thing too, is eventually it gets to the place where your all out sprint becomes a crawl, it becomes easier. I have one, two, three, I'm gonna do six podcast episodes today. I'll record six today. It's not that hard anymore. to do that, right? At one point, I would have had to take a nap in between because it's like, okay, I just gave it everything I had. That's the other thing about consistency. When you put in the reps, you just get better, things get easier, and you can essentially multiply your impact through Yes. And I've heard this And what's interesting for the people listening, one of the things I admire that I observe, you have a great system and a habit consistency, but Nor could I. No. And so our audience wouldn't know this, but I'll share. part of the confirmation of this to make sure everything was aligned, that I was still available, and making sure your calendar was still aligned. There was somebody else special involved, Yes, yes. Shout out to Laura. Shout out to Laura for... Yeah. Yeah. I say this all the time. Unfortunately, there are a bunch of people, and I just mean unfortunately because you'd never know. There are a dozen, more than a dozen people behind the scenes that are doing stuff that allow me to come be here with you today. And yeah, nothing, there is no such thing as self-made. I did not make this camera. I did not make this microphone. I don't know how. I didn't make the lights. I didn't make this chair. I had an idea and we practiced the idea and now it's become a thing, but it's because we've So this is interesting where we can go from this, a little bit of mindset and belief. I had a conversation, I was a guest on a podcast before this. I'm not doing six today. But what's interesting is mindset and beliefs. And as myself as an entrepreneur that used to do everything on my own, What part of your journey did you find that you had to have other people in to support you and getting rid of that mindset that as an entrepreneur and as a professional, we sometimes think, hey, it's got to be done by me to be done right. How did you overcome that? You know, honestly, I don't know if I was lucky in that or maybe I was more evolved than I give myself credit for, but for us, it started with things that were not revenue generators. So it didn't really matter if it was 80% to the way I could do it. It started with, we would have, we had somebody help us with our Facebook group. That was the beginning is post something every day. We'll try to make it a little bit better as we go, but, It's not directly connected to money. We're not losing money if things go wrong. And if anything, it's just a value add. I started with things that did not necessarily create the opportunity to burn the house down if they went wrong. That helped me, that reaffirmed the fact that, okay, this is a thing. And then eventually it got to the point where it just wasn't, we were doing like five episodes a week. I had started to take on some podcast clients, and it was beyond my capability to do as much audio editing and video editing as needed. Honestly, it was necessity. My back was up against the wall. I wanted to grow, so I had to find someone who I felt could help me in that. And that was one of the best decisions ever. So I think outside of maybe the typical entrepreneur story, delegating for me has never really been that hard because I realize I can only do so much. And I'd rather guide and lead and support someone who's doing it than assume I can do it on my own. Because even from the very beginning, I've never been able to do all this by myself. So I think I had a pretty early grasp on And so I struggled with that before. And I like to Well, I know I've overcome it. I'm like a Jedi now. But I talk to a lot of entrepreneurs and a lot of professionals. I see people struggling and they think, I got to do this. And I was at a conference once and shout out to the person. If they're listening, I have so much respect for you. There was something that I seen that I identified with because I seen the former version of me. We're at this wonderful conference. and the man was in his laptop the whole time and not being able to be present because he was still working while he was at the conference in front of some amazing content, great speakers that feed your mind, help you grow, but still in the weeds. What advice would you say to entrepreneurs and people that are stuck with that mindset, I got to do it myself? It's It's hard. The only way you ever know it's okay if things go wrong is when you let things go wrong. And I think that's our deepest fear is, well, if I delegate it to someone, they're only gonna do it 60% as well as I do it, and then I'm gonna have to do it myself. Honestly, you probably will You probably will in the beginning. And then you'll get into a cadence, and then you'll get to practice your leadership and your communication style, and eventually it will get better. But in the beginning, a lot of your fears will come true. And you have to let them fail. Yeah, you have to accept that. Nobody knows what you're thinking. Nobody knows exactly how you would do it. Give the opportunity for failure to occur. One, you experience it. Two, you can communicate through it, and then you can work those kinks out. So it's oftentimes the thing that we're most afraid of has to actually happen in order for us to realize it's not that big of a deal. That's part one. Part two is the only way to realize what you are the best at is to let things go and then figure out what you actually should be investing your time in. I can't delegate this. Nobody on the team is gonna be able to do podcast episodes for me. That'll never happen. But there are people that are better at graphic design than I am. Better at video editing, better at sending messages, that. The only way to get really, really good at one thing is to let people help you with the stuff that you're just not gonna be the best at anyway. That, Perfect, I know that'll help some people. It's a common- Of course. Yeah, and I'm a person who's lived it. What's the biggest thing you've learned after coaching and speaking worldwide and Ideas are great, but an idea without implementation is just holding space. That I'm somebody who I'm very big on taking action, take action, take action. And the people who consistently win are the people who consistently take So true. There's a gentleman, I know he says money loves Yeah, and we've all met someone who is like, oh, I got a really good idea. What is it? And then six months later, there's a new idea. Look, I love ideas. I have a lot of ideas, but the only ideas that have ever become successful are the ones that I took action on. So if anything, At the end of the day, what a coach is or what a speaker is that motivates you or inspires you is hopefully somebody that helps you create necessity and there's somebody that helps you create accountability. I don't want somebody just to be inspired or motivated. That doesn't do anything the next day. I want you to change a little bit about yourself or look at yourself in a little bit of a different light or sign up for something that you wouldn't normally sign up for and then do the thing the next day. I want you to take action. And that, I think that's really the goal. The most transformational content is the content that requires you to Yes. I hope I know for me, just what I've learned from at least my own coach challenges me consistently asking, saying, is that the truth? There's even as much as we all develop our own mindset and beliefs, still question myself and, oh, I can't do this. Okay, wait a second, you did this before. Is this the truth? Like, let's go back and look at your previous wins. Did you actually pick up the phone and call? Sometimes we don't, oftentimes, a lot of times we don't do that because we sit in fear and not taking action. Of course. Yeah. So I think that's part of that, though, that whole thing about taking action, like even I think of, you know, I'm a father of five, I think sometimes, like, I'm going to bring my son into this for a bit. not taking action to apply for a job. And so this brings it back to, sometimes we don't take action, I believe it's because we don't feel confident. So how can people work on that to get the confidence to be practical, not just woo theory, Yeah, that is the paradox of life right there, because the only real way to build confidence is to do something you don't wanna do to prove to yourself that you're capable of doing it. So if we simplify it to its simplest form, building belief is stating that you're gonna do something, proving to yourself that you're capable of doing it through action, and then self-assigning the credit to yourself. So great example, and this is why I say we start so incredibly small. Okay, I wanna be more confident. Awesome. This is what you're gonna do. I want you to state to yourself, next time I go to the grocery store, I'm going to hold eye contact with somebody that's walking down the aisle in front of me. State that. Love it. That's the idea. Love it, that's the idea. Next time you go to the grocery store, you gotta prove to yourself that you're actually capable of doing that by doing that. Then after you do it, and you're thinking to yourself, my goodness, that person thinks I'm a weirdo, or whatever you feel, you have to self-assign and say, I said I was gonna do it, I did it, now I get the good feeling, and to your point, Brett, next time you have an opportunity to do something that scares you, you look back at the most recent and relevant proof. The most recent relevant proof is I did that strange thing in the grocery store this morning and it went really, really well. That, but the problem for so many people is they state Too much, too big, too big. out Yeah, get a base hit. You might hit a grand slam your first time, but you also might strike out. State, prove, self-assign, and do that at the level of self-belief that you already have. If you have level two self-belief, level two confidence, do You can work your way up the mountain. It's really hard to go from the base camp to the peak. unless you have really, really, really high self-belief, which statistically most people just don't, myself included. I set small goals, I accomplish them, and then it allows me to have the belief to set bigger goals over I'm right there. I've been there so many times. It's funny how you use the grocery store analogy. I started laughing because a couple of things I do, and this little quirky side of me, But whenever I go to the United States and live in Canada and I like to go to Target and dance. OK, I know it's weird, but I do it and I brought my my wife was with me for one trip and when we were in Denver and I I just did it out of the blue. She's like, I don't know you just Like, hey, no one's going to no one like, hey, they may be watching, but I'm just having fun. I'm being me. I Yeah. The grocery store thing is, I didn't make that up. I did that. That's not even an example. That's an experience. I literally did that. And then it was, I'm going to try to make the person who's doing the checkout counter laugh. That's what I'm going to do. Yeah. That's a great exercise. I do that too. I like to connect with people, make them laugh. because like and just and get out of my own comfort zone grow a little bit sometimes we don't feel like it but we we take that step and do it yeah and that's that's like from a person that when i was younger i couldn't even pick up the phone to page people to get out of the computer systems so like that that what you said is just baby steps, make eye contact, and a bonus for smiling. Smiling is nice. Of course. Sometimes not optional, but... Yeah, Sometimes not optional, but... Don't stare. Don't stare. But when you, like we talked about, when you practice something like that consistently, you will become more confident. It It'll become natural as part of your existence, who you are. Yeah. So, In all of this, I have some notes here and one of the questions I want to ask is related to, can someone really succeed without struggling? I know people are struggling, but sometimes people just How does that work? I don't know. If they exist, I've Maybe it's what we observe when we think with the perception that it's Yeah. I think there's two types of people. There's people who take pride in how easy it was, and there's people who take pride in how hard it's been. I'm the second one for sure. This is what I would say. The level of struggle that is required for you is directly connected to the size of If you want to start a podcast and have a few episodes, love that for you. I'm going to have to struggle more than you because the goal of the podcast is way bigger for me than just to have a few episodes. Yeah. If you really good example. Same person, you wanna lose five pounds? Or do you wanna lose 15 pounds? Five pounds, most likely gonna be easier than 15 pounds. So the length, the difficulty, the resistance of the journey is going to dictate how challenging, how much you have to struggle. And I don't think struggling is optional. I think it is a requirement. Resistance by definition is hard. So you could even change struggle for discomfort, struggle for grow, struggle for resistance. No matter what, you're going to face some not So true. Curious, you mentioned your goals. What are some of your goals? Do you Yeah. The long-term goal is to have the most successful success company on the planet. That's the big goal. That's the massive goal. Yeah, that's the BHAG. If I could get to the place where I could like donate over my lifetime $10 million, I would be really, really, really excited and really, really proud of that. I think that's a really good goal for me as opposed to having like a net worth goal. If I could donate to charity in some way, shape Why don't we just start saying when I get to? Is that hard? I know it's hard to say, but sometimes we don't want to come off that we're closer of ourselves. But I think it's okay because your intention is to get there. And sometimes we hit or we go for our goals. I've really been watching my language a lot lately. And I heard that in you and I think I'm having this great conversation. Our listeners are hearing this. And And I think it's okay to say when. So I appreciate the challenge and I appreciate the feedback. And I do. I think at times, this is the interesting thing about self-belief and confidence. Yeah. am the most confident I've ever been, but I also don't know how that We have to be careful of that as we grow. And I'm mindful of that too. And I think if I was seeing the same goal, I would probably do the same thing sometimes, but sometimes I pivot and watch, oh, I don't want to Let me challenge you, Brett. Let me challenge you. Any goal that you'd feel comfortable sharing with us that you can step into and lean into as an intention as opposed to There's a few, and I may as well go public with this and I'll share it. I've been playing around with this idea for a while. And I, I, I got the story, the man in front of you that I've released 120 pounds and rebuild my identity. So I built, I've had a number of people say to me, actually a former client that came back from my world as a client, they said, Hey, I told him how great coaching has been for me. First thing they said, after I said that, would you be my coach? Okay. Limiting belief right there. Okay. Not me. So I've built out a whole coaching system to help entrepreneurs reclaim their identity. And I've been, I made a commitment to my coach that I have that I was going to launch it, but I'm still hiding, but I know the way I had designed group coaching, help busy entrepreneurs. reclaim their identity with helping them mindset shifts, what I've gone through, given the frameworks to release the weight by putting themselves first. I have bigger goals than that, but that's the one that was just the one that I know I love it. When are we going to see it? When is it going Well, you still got time. You have plenty of time. I know. I know. I know. I look forward to it. I look forward to seeing it. Yeah. I'm working on it. But even I'm hiding right now. And some of us are in your own journey. We are. Sometimes we hold back that fear. But it's that, actually, it comes down to what you said earlier about confidence. you just have to take that leap of faith. So yeah. Like Wayne Gretzky says, Wayne Gretzky says he missed a hundred percent of the shots you don't Well, he is the great, well, not anymore. I guess Ovechkin overtook him, Yes. Yeah. A hundred percent. So, but touche back at me. Yes. But, but, but I really believe for you that you will hit that because you have, you have so much intention. what you want to do that the universe, I believe, will Well, I appreciate it. I love the challenge. I think, again, it's very easy. It's easy to get into a zone where you are afraid to say something even though you believe it. As you, I'm telling you that, I say this all the time, self-worth and self-belief, when it's something you're really leaning into and you're really feeling for the first time, maybe forever, it's a tool that you don't know how to use yet. So you're afraid to paint the wall when you're supposed to, you're not supposed to paint the wall. You want to paint the railing, you're shooting it all over the place. I think that's that you're seeing that in real time. I do believe I can do that. And I'm also not sure what I would say if somebody reached out and challenged me on it. Right. So I, I run from it a little bit for Yeah. I think deep down we all do, but yeah. So we just had an example of this. You did it, but I'm going to share the question I had. What role does vulnerability play in personal growth and business? We Yeah. It's everything. Vulnerability is admitting the truth even when it's scary. And that if you want to grow, the only way to grow, well not the only way, the best way, the optimal way, is to grow from the truth. We want to grow from the truth. I don't want to run from the truth. So yeah, that's a really good example. And then even if we cross it over to relationships, It would have been supremely awkward and maybe negative if I was not vulnerable and I said, Brett, you don't know me and you don't know me like that. You have no idea. That wouldn't be a comfortable conversation. So it's, let's go into this together and let's experiment it and let's dig together. And I think we will be closer because of Yeah. it takes a lot of courage to do that sometimes and and and and growth and you can't get there unless unless you really face your truth for sure and that's where the growth comes from um so hey so you this background you've had it i i i really connect with this i want to know Is there something that you wish you knew earlier in your journey that you know now? I think everybody knows that, but sometimes we don't have that self-awareness. I have a feeling you have multiple examples of I wish I knew the difference between self-belief and self-worth. I thought if you believed in yourself, that was it. If you believed that you were capable of something in the external world, that was it. I didn't understand that there was a level of valuing yourself internally, not for what you're capable of, but for who you are as a person. Didn't know that existed for most of my life. That's one. Second one is I did not understand how malleable we are as humans. I didn't understand the importance of reading books and how it would actually shift me and change me. It didn't make any sense to me as as silly as it might sound, right? That those two things we always talk about. If I could talk to 16 year old Kev, I don't know if 16 year old Kevin would have listened honestly. But it would have been those two things. Kev, you are so capable of change, you just don't know it. That's one. And believing in yourself in the external world is awesome and valuable and important. And you can't let people walk all over you and you have to set boundaries and you have to invest in yourself and you have to understand your worth as a human because accomplishments aren't gonna fix that necessarily. So those two things are Investing in ourselves is critical. I've seen it so many times. Like for me, one of the best books that was ever given to me was back in 1994, there was two of them. They can grow rich and how to win friends and influence people. This was in a software marketing and publishing course. Set the whole trajectory for me, for my life. Is I would say the book that has had the most impact on me is a book by Carol Dweck called Mindsets. Okay. And it essentially breaks down the difference between having a fixed mindset and a growth mindset. And it was, I'm listening to this book and it's like, oh my goodness, that's me. That's me. That's me. That's me. I have a fixed mindset. Interesting. So that really helped me and that revealed to me that there's a big difference between where I am and how malleable I could be. I would say that's one. And then your coach and you probably love this book, The Compound Effect by Darren Hardy is a great book that talks about how small things compound. Those Interesting. What book are you reading right now? Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke is a book I'm reading right now. I just read a book called The Self-Made Billionaire Effect before that. And then I was in a heavy Jim Collins phase, just going through. The Flywheel, Good to Great, Great by Choice. I love Jim Collins. It's been a heavy business and math phase lately, I would say. My book of choice right now is The Compelling Communicator. I love that. Really great. How many times have we seen PowerPoint slides that are pretty much deaths by PowerPoint and the message is centered around the person, but this whole book is brilliant. It sets the whole tone for how to structure your slides, but how to develop your communication style to speak to your audience, to put it in their perspective, because that's what people really care about. How does this impact I've been guilty of I have a great friend that has a canoeing presentation. I think the last time It's incredible. So Kevin, what would you say to our audience, anybody out there that may be having a struggle with mindset limiting beliefs? preamble to just getting to the end of our show here One, you're not alone. I know it feels like you're in a silo and nobody could possibly understand what it's like. There are way more people out there, myself included. Brett, you've been open about that as well. You're not alone in that. That's one. Two is, The things that are going to change that for you are gonna start off as so small, they might be embarrassing, but I'm telling you, that's what works. It is the unsexy fundamentals that work. It just is. That's just the way it works. And you owe it to yourself to put in the work, to see what life is like on the other end of not having the same, or to the same degree, limiting beliefs. Having self-belief is incredible. And having self-worth is incredible. And it will literally change everything for you because it's gonna Beautiful, wonderful. So, I wanna do something a little fun. Okay, let's do it. At least, I think it's fun, you may not, but. We'll find out. It's my show, you get to do it. Rapid fire questions for you, okay? Love it, yep. Okay, all right. What's the first thing that comes to your mind? Okay. Yep. What's your go-to mindset reset? Ooh, the gym. Okay. Favorite food? Pizza. Okay. I put that in your head. What's 30 minutes of learning. Okay. One habit you'll never skip. My wife. Beautiful. What's scarier, Regret. Yeah. One word that Impossible. Crocker Picard. I thought I was losing it for a second. My business partner would probably know exactly what you're talking about because he tries to I don't know what you're talking about. I figured I'd throw it in there. I appreciate it. Does that mean I passed? You definitely did. Everybody passes. It's a good show for that. So Kevin, wrapping up, I want to thank you very much for coming here. It was such an honor to meet you and speak with you and learn from you, be inspired by you. How do I just give my email out because there's, yeah, you can message me on social media or whatever, but I check my emails every day. My email is kevinatnextleveluniverse.com. I do my own emails. If I can add value in any way, shape or form, I'm Podcasts is Next Level University. It is on all the podcast platforms. It's on YouTube. If you want to get a little bit better every single day, Yeah, I would encourage everybody to have a listen when you're out for a walk, put it in your ear, but you know, you can do two things at once, which I know to be true and get some exercise and feed your mind by listening to Kevin. Next level university is definitely worth the investment. You will go away every time. learning Thanks for tuning into the adaptive mindset. 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