Welcome to The Adaptive Mindset. I'm Brett Gallant, cybersecurity thought leader and founder of Adaptive Office Solutions. Here, we don't just talk tech, we unlock the strategies, stories, and mindset shifts you need to stay secure, lead boldly, and thrive in a digital world. Let's get started. Welcome back to The Adaptive Mindset. I'm really pleased to have with me today, Drewbie Wilson, host of Call the Damn Leads, who's really inspired me. It's incredible, his podcast and everything else that he does. Drewbie, it's such an honor to have you with us today.

Brett Gallant

Brett, thank you so much for the opportunity. You know, one thing you'll hear me talk about a lot today, time is our most valuable asset. And so I appreciate you and the listeners give me a little bit of your time to share some of my story with you. And I'm excited to know that at least one person today is going to walk away with some value and learn some new things about how to crush their day.

Drewbie Wilson

Incredible. And I have full confidence that will happen because, Drewbie, like I stated in the opening, your podcast has inspired me. My mantra for this year is call the damn leads. Amen. Amen. At bare minimum, one a day. Non-negotiable. And that's thanks to you. I'd like you to share with our listeners some things that, where have you evolved, you know, crushed overcoming mindset and shifts in your story. I would love to hear that.

Brett Gallant

Yeah, I appreciate that. You know, I know as far as this being the Adaptive Mindset show, it's really about, to me, growing up. Long story short, which I've written several books, if you want to check them out, they're on Amazon, which is a funny thing to say because I barely graduated high school and most of my teachers told me I was going to be an utter failure. So if that says anything about what my childhood started as, you know, let's just say that My mom and dad had a rough relationship and so there was some abuse and some addiction and some things that went on in my childhood that I learned and grew through and I always look back and I say, hey man, I'm very blessed to have the life that I did because it taught me a lot about resilience. It taught me a lot about overcoming situations and struggles, and ultimately we don't recognize that as children, but what it allows us to do as adults and the leaders that we become in our personal life, our professional life, and our spiritual life, it truly does it starts to shine in ways that those are the people you become attracted to. Those are the people who you look at and you go, wow, whatever they're drinking, I want to sip that juice. Like whatever they've got going on, like how do I get that? Because it becomes not just about you having the energy, but the energy that you start pouring into the cups of others. And, you know, as I grew up and got older and went through my trial by fire as a young man, I learned a lot about hard work and addiction and what it's like to chase after, you know, goals and results and getting certain things and not really feeling satisfied with them after a long time and where in life. personally and professionally, we have to find the things that are truly important to us. And as cliche as it sounds, you know, the why is actually really, really important because if people don't know why they're doing something, that means they're probably not going to do it. It doesn't matter what it is. If they don't know why they're not going to do the what.

That's where you find the passion. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. And to me, the passion is the important part, because when you can have passion, you have power. And when you have power, you have the energy to go do the things that you want to achieve in life.

Yeah, no, 100%. Your story resonates with me so much because in my life, I come from a challenging background as well. And I remember in high school, the guidance counselor told me that what I could account to was being a silverculture forestry person that would plant trees. And that was their belief that they were instilling on me. But we all know that we're crazy.

And I don't mean to cut you off, but success is a perspective. For someone, they would absolutely love to just walk around and plant trees all day and make enough money to have a good living and be able to explore the parks and the forest.

And it's so true. That would fill me up, honestly. Funny how things change over time. It's true, though. I enjoy getting out into the wilderness, and I've actually blocked out time in the next two months where I'm intentionally going out to my favorite lake or going out for thinking time. So I didn't mean anything by that, but professionally said that's the skill set. I couldn't go to university. I couldn't do anything beyond that. That's what I meant. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And I love that, though, because I don't mean to press back, but I think this is the challenge of the mindset side. Right. Because it is everyone has their own version, their own perspective, their own way of accomplishing. And what I think is. It's important to remember that we all have our own path to carve, and there are going to be people in your life who are going to say, hey, you're not good enough for that or you don't have the skill set or you're not smart enough. You're not fast enough. You're not strong enough. You're too fat. You're too skinny there. They're always going to project their own insecurities. I shouldn't say always, but oftentimes you're finding people are projecting their own insecurities on you because they don't believe in themselves. And that's why you're ability to develop that adaptive mindset and to be able to get into someone else's worldview and understand that just because theirs is different, it doesn't make yours wrong. And objectively, you have to sometimes work through those scenarios with people who want you to feel wrong about your perspective. And that's why mindset is so important.

Well, yeah, see that other perspective and lift people up. And I really strongly believe that relationships matter. And you develop those relationships, great things can happen in your life, but also the people around you. And you're a living testament that to me from what I hear you share and the content that you share.

And I'm thankful for that.

I'm thankful for you. I'm thankful that I had the opportunity to come into your world. And I'm grateful for this opportunity to present you to people in my world.

So I appreciate that. It's funny. I have, um, you know, I'm currently sitting here in my mother-in-law's finished basement. We're, we're staying with her for a short time, uh, as we're traveling around with our RV, because long story short, my family and I decided to sell our home in Texas. We moved into an RV so that we could travel the country and have the freedom to live and explore and do all these amazing things. And wouldn't, you know, God's. what divine wisdom and timing as we were traveling through the area, we got a call that my father-in-law, my wife's dad, he has cancer. And so he's been going through surgeries and immunotherapy. And, you know, had we not put ourselves in the position to do what most people said was either totally crazy, you know, selling your home and leaving and starting a business and traveling in an RV. And some people said, that's nuts. Why would you do that? And other people said, hey, that sounds like a dream. That sounds amazing. I'd love to do that someday. And what we learned for us in our life is that it truly led to us being able to be here for him in his season of need so that my wife could be here and help take care of him. But it all came back to us being willing to be able to say, hey, this is our path. This is our version of success. And these are the things we're willing to do to make that a reality.

And I can't think of anything better. And you must be so grateful that that season of life came for you and you took that shot to do that and said yes to going after that dream. And it gave you the option and the ability to be there for your family in ways that you didn't even comprehend. at the time.

You know, and it's such a blessing. And that's why I'm so grateful to have this opportunity to be on here with you and to share more of the content and my story, because, you know, my nine-year-old son Anderson's here with me. Duder, we call him. And along the way, when I started creating my content, I have a podcast and I was, you know, several episodes into it. And at one point I was kind of like, man, maybe I've said everything I have to say. I don't know if there's anything else for me to talk about at this point. I was kind of in one of those down moments, one of those seasons. And my wonderful mother-in-law came to me and she said, well, listen, you know, how incredible that we live in a time and you're doing the work to record this content, because heaven forbid, let's say something did happen to you and God calls you to your final place, you know, to the kingdom. There's all this content and stories that he can go back and listen to. And all of these things that you're sharing, all of this wisdom that he now will have for the rest of eternity and even your grandkids or their grandkids. And that's why I think it's so important for people to share their story and why I'm so grateful for you, Brett, to give me this opportunity to share some of it, because you never know. We're not promised tomorrow. The only thing we're guaranteed in life are death and taxes. And taxes we can mitigate in some ways, death we can mitigate in some ways, but at the end of the day, we're always going to have those two things.

Those are true. Those are truths.

Yeah. And so the more we can make the best of the time that we have here today, the blessing that we've been given, man, that that is my whole mission is to help other people see that there is possibilities far beyond what they even know is possible. Yeah.

I think we all go through those seasons. I know, um, like what you just said hit home for me. I, that we go through these seasons where we think, you know, I'm not that interesting. But we all are interesting and we all have a story and we can all connect with people in ways that can inspire and empower people to live their best life and learn from what we have to share because every single one of us has something of value that we bring into the world. And you are a great example of that. You bring that every day from what I hear. And there's messages that you share. And you, the listeners, there's messages that you share. And that's what I think Druby and I would want you both, all of you, to realize that you, the listeners, all have an empowering message that can help people. Because that's what we're ultimately here to do.

Amen. And what I love to remind people often, I was just at a business meeting at the church for, you know, the local small business owners, and there was a gentleman here who was sharing that. you know, he had written this book, but it hadn't come out. And, you know, it was something that he's like, yeah, maybe someday. And I, at the end of the meeting, I went and I challenged him and I said, Hey man, what, what has kept you from putting your book out? And he's like, well, I've got the transcript and I, you know, I just really haven't felt like it's ready. And, you know, there's still more stuff I could add to it. And I thought this is such a great moment because, you know, and I asked him, I said, Hey, are you open to feedback? Because I always, I don't want to give unwanted feedback to people or unwanted, because some people see it as criticism and not feedback, right? There's a perspective There.

You have to respect that too. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. A hundred percent. So one of the things I've started to try and be better about, again, I'm not perfect. Nobody is, but I try to say, hey, are you open to some feedback? And he said, sure, absolutely. And I said, well, I like to remind individuals that imposter syndrome is a real thing. And he said, oh, yeah, I've heard the term before. And I said, and I like to believe that it's an integrity driven feeling, because if you're feeling that way of imposter syndrome, which for those of you who aren't familiar with the term, Google it, but essentially it means that you're you feel as though you're not worthy of a certain situation. You know, what gives me the right to start a podcast? What gives me the right to write a book? What gives me permission to do the amazing thing that I feel called by God to do? Like what what gives me that permission? It's an imposter thing. I believe it's an integrity driven thing because often what I find in those individuals who experience it is they don't know what they don't know. But they're also students of the game and they recognize that there's so much more to learn that they're actively wanting to make sure they're always learning and growing and achieving some new level of thought. And where they get stuck is that they wouldn't ever want to put anyone else in harm's way by giving them misinformation. And so what I encourage him to think about is like, hey, there's someone out there right now. who is in a season of their life. And they're just like, man, if I could get to where he is at, if I could get to where she is at in life, if I could have that job and that car and their bank account, which again, we can't see any of this from the inside. All we see is the surface level. So there's a whole nother layer to this, but you see this and you start these comparisons. Well, I'll remind him. And I reminded him, it was like, they just want to know how to get to where you're at. So the story that you're not telling right now is actually preventing someone from achieving the level they're supposed to be because they need your story to find the inspiration in themselves to take action to do the thing.

I'm so glad you shared that. In relation to that, I'm going to remember that because I needed to hear that. And I've worked a lot on imposter syndrome. And the other thing I wanted to add to that, it just made me think, because I heard a guest on your podcast talk about a journey with Brian Tracy. And Brian shares a story in one of his presentations, Someday Isle. And someday I'll do this, someday I'll do that. And folks, for those of you listening, with this beautiful message Drewbie said, that just shared with us, vote yourself off someday island. Vote yourself off because you have a message and a purpose to share. I'm listening to this and speaking with Drew being fortunate to do this. I have a message that I don't have the courage yet to share, but I will one day. I'm committing right now to the audience that I'm going to do it because those messages that we have one day they're going to help somebody. And I know, I know that each one of us have been giving challenges, puzzles for a reason, because someday in that hour of need, when somebody comes to you, you're going to be able to be the best person to serve them because you went through it.

And that is your struggle is your story. And your story is what motivates and inspires others to do amazing things. I mean, you can go all the way back to the beginning of time. People would write and paint on the cave walls the images to tell a story of what happened in that area. Sometimes it was a story of You know, survival. Hey, we we killed these buffaloes and we burned them over the fire. And like, turns out you can eat the buffalo meat. Crazy. They didn't have any other way to communicate that story back then. So that's what they did. Yeah. These days, I mean, there's an infinite number of platforms through which you can share your story. It doesn't matter which one you use. Pick one and start there. I think what keeps a lot of people stuck is paralysis and analysis paralysis. Yes. Okay. Well, I've got a story to tell now. I got to pick the perfect platform and then I've got to make sure that it's perfectly formatted and that my video is perfect and that my sound is perfect and that I use the words perfect and it's never going to be that. Nothing is ever going to be perfect.

Speaking from your heart. I recorded something last night in the gym. And I was just talking, thinking about my father. And I shared a message and I posted it and I know quite a few people viewed it on social and they thanked me for sharing it. And the perfect time is now. Perfect time is now.

The message you feel called to share is the message that should be shared.

Yeah. Yeah.

And, and oftentimes we, we second guess ourselves because we don't want to feel judged by that message, because we know that someone out there in our world, and it might not come to mind right away, but there's someone that, you know, if you shared that message that would make them want to say something about you that you wouldn't like, or that would give them a feeling about you that would make you make you feel as though that relationship is going to change. And that's a scary place to be. Because when you make decisions based upon one person who might maybe dislike what you have to say, then you're preventing the millions of potential people who could learn or grow through that message. And I realized that, you know, contextually, you don't want to just say mean things and not care about what someone thinks about you, but at the big picture of like, for you as a person, as a human, as an individual on this planet, it's important that you're able to tell your story because your story is so much bigger than you.

And sometimes you say those messages and you can say them in a way with love and respect and tenderness that needs to get out and still make an impact on somebody's life. And that's important just as equal. We have a mutual connection. Sebastian, who says something that really connects with me all the time, and I've really made it, I've internalized it. Who's missing out because you're not showing up? Amen. You know, like, and for you, you've decided to show up and take this courageous leap of starting your business and your podcast and this journey. And a lot of times we have, I like to talk with mindset, talking about limiting beliefs, but you shattered that. Now you shared with, you had some challenges that you overcome, some puzzles that you solved. with help from your mother-in-law, but here you are crushing it, crushing the day, showing up, making an impact on my day today and our audience and making an impact with your community. Hey, you can't get any better than that.

I am extremely blessed. I'm highly favored. I've made several more mistakes in my life than I probably should have and I thank the lucky stars every day and I'm grateful to God for giving me the freedom and opportunity to be here. a lot of the times it came back to hard conversations. You know, the ones that you don't really want to have, that you're having with yourself in the mirror sometimes, but it's more like in those dark moments where you don't want to admit to anyone how you truly feel. It's important because when you can have those hard conversations, not only with yourself, but with someone that you love, it opens up the door for opportunity. And I think that's a mindset and a skill set that you develop because it's not easy to be vulnerable. Yeah. Yes. It's simple. You just tell people how you feel. Yeah. But we overcomplicate it because we don't want to or we haven't developed our mindset to the level of understanding the different feelings and emotions and what they truly mean or how they reflect in someone else's worldview. Because, you know, Brad, if I were to come on here and be like, well, you know, I'm angry at you. Yeah. tonality matters and your perspective of the word angry matters and the people in your life who've used anger or who have been angry, that matters. So everyone's going to see it a bit differently, but what we can learn from each other and why I'm so grateful for you and for you creating a podcast like this for others and me having the opportunity to be here is that Sometimes we can have those hard conversations. Sometimes it's you hear it in a place like this among people who are willing to start that conversation and get it going. And it frees you up to go and take that next step. So again, I just I'm honored to have the chance to share.

Yeah, no, it's a privilege to be able to do that. I want to shift for a moment because you're a man of many talents. And I love the question you ask all the time on your podcast, your most outrageous sales story. I'd like to see if you have something you can share with our audience, because there's going to be, there's countless people that are in sales, but I believe even if you're not in sales, we're all in sales. Hmm. Really, like even our children are selling us. Can I have that chocolate bar? So perhaps, could you share something with our audience, something that you'd like to feel empowered or on your heart right now to share something sales related that can help somebody?

Ooh, something sales related that could help somebody. You know, I think the most important thing you could do right now is you could figure out what your time is worth. where you're spending it, why you're spending it there, and then ultimately ask yourself the question of, is it getting me the life that I want?

Yeah.

Yeah. I mentioned early on at the start of the show, time is your most valuable asset. Time, energy, and effort. Energy and effort, we can only use in the moment, and while we can supplement it with drugs and different things along the way, there are still limits to how much of that we can actually give at any given time, and we can't go back and add more to it once the time has passed. the formula that I use and the way that I go about this, and it might take me a minute to get through it, Brett, but like, bear with me. If you're here, grab a notepad or if you're driving, like, make a note to come back and listen to this process, because this is what people, they pay me a lot of money for. Yeah, write this down. Yeah. Yes, sir. Thank you. And so what I tell people is, hey, go back and look at how much money did you make last year? Because, you know, while money is not the most important thing on the planet, it is most definitely a tool and a resource that we all need. And a lot of us need more of. That's why we're still showing up and working so hard every day. So add all the money that you made up your main job. Maybe you have some side hustles or like some affiliate deals or something where you get a couple bucks here and there. You know, maybe you're selling pictures of your piggies on the Internet. Like, I'm not judging. Just saying, maybe you do whatever you're doing, right? You're putting time, energy, and effort into making it happen. I sometimes wonder, Brett, I'm just going to be honest with you, man, my feet are kind of jacked up from all my fitness stuff, so sometimes I wonder if there's a crowd out there that would pay me, but that's a different show and a different conversation. That said, if you added all that money together and you get your grand total, I want you to write that down and then I want you to divide it by the number 2000. And here's why 2000 is important. Because if you are an average person, which you're here listening to us right now, so something tells me you're probably not average, you're probably above average, because you're putting in the time, energy and effort to learn and get better. And so if you were though, you'd work 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year with your two week vacation, maybe some sick time in there. And essentially you'd work 2000 hours a year. So the quick math that I always give from stage and on shows because it makes it easy is if you made $100,000 last year, which for some areas of the country is like good money. And for other areas of the country is minimum wage. It's a weird thing to think about because, you know, but like, doesn't matter if you made a hundred thousand dollars last year and you work 2000 hours, your time is worth roughly $50 an hour. Okay. That's just math. We can't argue with that. That's just this, this is the numbers, the numbers, the number, and for whoever's listening and doing this, that's the number for you. But what's scary, Brett, is if I throw my hood up. Excuse me, sir. My name is Jeff and you have 24 hours left to live. I need you to come with me. Here's a check for. 50, 100, 250, 25, $30, whatever that number was that you just calculated. Now, when you start thinking about the fact that it was like, well, hold on, you're going to only give me that much amount of money for my lap, one of my last 24 hours of life. I don't think so. At least I would have to second guess it. Even right now in my own, every day I ask myself this question is like, hey, am I doing something that's getting me where I want to be? Because at the end of the day, I'm not guaranteed another 24 hours. I might be blessed with them, but I'm not guaranteed. So you need to know what is your time worth? And then you got to ask yourself, all right, well, now that I know what it's worth, where am I spending it? Because is it truly getting me a return on the investment? Because I can't get more time. You can always make more money, but we can't get more time. Isn't that scary to think about?

Oh, I think about that all the time. And I have all kinds of examples. I've heard something like that before in a different way, but I like to do a time and energy audit. And I look at my week, my past week, and I audit my past year and I say, okay, this is how I've been showing up. This is what I was doing. As much as I got in the weeds doing that, that doesn't give me energy. So I'm going to pass that task onto somebody else. that where they feel fulfilled and get the energy from, and that I can do things like this, getting on podcasts and on stages and meeting with my clients, that gives me energy. Creating quotes, not that exciting.

You understand. I like creating quotes. You know, man, I love creating quotes. Funny enough, it's one of those things that does excite me. But that's what's important. Find what excites you and do more of that. And the things that don't excite you, find someone who does and have them do it and pay them well for it. And focus your time, energy and effort on the things that matter.

Right. And we give the great blessing in that. is we give other people the opportunity to feel fulfilled because we've been guilty and holding on to certain things. And so that's a great testament of auditing your year and saying, okay, yeah, I got 24 hours to live. How am I gonna use every minute, every hour? What am I doing today to make it count? What am I doing to make an impact today?

You know, and what's scary is like, I've done this so far, even as on my phone, which if you guys aren't seeing this on the video and you can't really see it very clearly anyways, but I have a little box and it's a countdown timer because statistically men. typically live to somewhere between 74 and 78 years old. So I went on the high side, cause I'm trying to, you know, every little extra advantage I can get. And I did the math and I was like, all right, well, how many, if I only live to that timeframe, how many days do I have left? And, and Brett, I've got less than 10,000 days left. That's, you know, if I only told my son and my wife, I love them once a day, that's only less than 10,000 times. If I only got to, you know, have one more glass of water, there's less than 10,000. You know how fast I can spend through $10,000? Like in a heartbeat. You know how fast you can go through 10,000 of anything? Pretty dang quick. And so now every day when I wake up and look at my phone, I'm reminded, Oh boy, one less day, one less hour, one less minute, one less opportunity to make a difference, to make an impact. And that makes a big impact on me.

Wouldn't you do anything, if you were told you had one day to live, wouldn't you do anything to have one more day to tell your wife that you love her or your children? We would do anything, that's more important.

You know, I guess I'm the type that if I was told I had 24 hours left and I knew it was the truth, I'm not going to fight to try to find 24 hours. I'm going to fight to maximize the 24 hours I have. Thank you for that.

Yeah. And really, there's a lesson in that. Make the most for every day you have, every minute you have now in living with an intention, serving, helping others. Yeah.

You know, one of the things that I found so interesting when we started our journey, especially in the RV and camping world, is a lot of individuals have been sold on this idea, at least my generation. I think it's changing a little bit now. I'm like mid-30s, so it might have changed with Gen Z. I'm not sure if I'm a millennial or a Gen X. I don't know where I fit on the spectrum, but I'm going to just be honest. I'm kind of a weird dude. Uh, but I'm just me, right? I'm just Drewbie Uh, but they, we were all sold on this idea of, Hey, you, you go to school and then you, you go to a college or a trade school and you get, you know, a certificate or degree, and then you put in your 30 years of labor. And at the end of the 30 years, you retire with a pension and some benefits. And, you know, then you get your social security money and you kind of live in good. Yeah. Well, Hey. Looking at the world I'm in right now in 2025, I just don't see that actually happening for the majority of the people who are reaching that point where they've been working for 30 years. Most of them are having to go get jobs at Walmart greeting customers because the pension that they have ain't paying the bills based on how much more expensive it is today than it was when they started that plan. Absolutely. Which I'm not trying to get political, Brett. I'm just saying this is the landscape that we're in.

Reality.

Reality. The reality. And even more scarily, They sell you on the idea. It's like, hey, you're going to work your whole entire life. And then you're never going to have to work again. And I don't know if you guys that are listening have ever been on a vacation and Brett, I'd be curious if you've ever experienced this, but like if you've ever taken a week long vacation by two or three, you're either just finally settling in because it's taken you that long to get out of work mode because it's just how you're built. Yep. Or by day three, you've relaxed enough to say, I need to get back to work. Like I'm done. I can't just sit still anymore. I need to go do things. And there's only so many fun things that you can do before they're not as fun anymore. You can only play golf every day for so many weeks before it becomes a job, not a fun activity.

I know that for me, I know that I won't retire. I will find something else to fill or perhaps I'll still do this because I enjoy this. This is fun that I get to help and serve people every day. What I actually did today, Truby, I made a commitment with a coaching group I'm in that I was going to map out my next two months where I was going to have my vacation time, my days of rest, and I have it. time blocked on my calendar. I have one week blocked out for my children for March break. I am not, I'm going to be present. Jim Rohn says, when you work, work. When you play, play. Don't mix the two.

Yeah, I'm guilty of mixing the two, to be honest with you, Brett. I know. I like to believe that. And, you know, that's why I love what we do. And this is why I love being very honest and transparent about who I am and what works for me, because what works for me will or will not work for you. And maybe some pieces of it do and some pieces of it don't. And I just encourage you to take what you like and leave what you don't at the door. That's not for you. I totally respect that and understand it. However, a lot of times the things that we leave at the door, we realize down the line that we should have brought with us. So, you know, sometimes if it stings right now and you don't want to accept it, it may be something that you come back to a few months from now, a year from now and go, dadgummit, he was right.

Well, I don't want to say it from another perspective and time changes and you, as we grow, cause we're growing every day, we see it through another lens with new learnings and new possibilities. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, question for you. And I know you're an author and you have great books and folks, you have to check out his website and his content. But I'd like to know, and I ask this to all my guests, is there any book or books that have inspired you that you go back to that you've read recently or that you've read in the past that you'd like to share with our audience?

I am a big fan of The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. I think that one is, it's a fictional story, but it's very much for anyone who's on an entrepreneurial journey, who's trying to discover, and it doesn't even have to be entrepreneurial, but anyone who's on a path of discovery, who's trying to find themselves, to find their purpose, to find their way. The Alchemist is a fantastic read and also a good listen on Audible. If you're someone who wants to listen to the content, I think it's very, it's just one of my favorites. And from a sales perspective, a mindset perspective, a people to people perspective, you can always go back to how to win friends and influence people. It's very cliche, but man, it's simple for a reason. Don't overlook the simplicity of it.

That book changed my life, Drew. When I was, when I first stepped into community college for international sales marketing and publishing back in 1995, that book and the thinking grow rich was given to me and it changed my life. And I go back to it all the time. That's a great book that every person could be inspired from the lessons in that book.

I have to agree with you 100% on it.

Yeah. Incredible. Thank you for that. Drewie, how do our guests find you? I know the obvious is call the damn leads.

Um, yeah, no, that's a great question. So, uh, I appreciate the listener. I appreciate you, uh, giving me an opportunity to be here and, and share some of my story and some of the silly stuff that I have going on in my world. Um, the easiest way to find me is called the damn leads.com. But what I'd really love and appreciate is if you're here with us today and you enjoyed this episode and conversation, would you share it on social media, send it to a friend, send it to a colleague, send it to someone that you also think might enjoy it or get value out of it? That's going to tell us that it meant something more than just surface level. Because if our message is so powerful that it encourages you to share it with someone else, then man, that means our time and effort here has been multiplied beyond what we can really see or measure. And so that to me would be the greatest compliment. You know, come buy some swag, order my books, maybe join our coaching programs, whatever. That's all well and good. But if you'll share this message and movement with someone who you think it could help. Yeah, that's going to be a truly next level way of showing us how much you care.

Yeah, and that's, I can't think of a better testament than that. And Drew B, I really appreciate the connections we made before this and the connection we made today and the connection that will carry on. And I will continue to honor you by that. And it was such a privilege to share this short period of time with you. You've impacted my day and it's such a blessing to know you. Amen, I appreciate you. Thanks for tuning into the Adaptive Mindset. If you found value in today's episode, don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who's ready to thrive in the digital age. Stay secure, stay adaptable, and I'll see you next time.