Welcome to the Adaptive Mindset. I'm Brett Gallant, cybersecurity thought leader and founder of Adaptive Office Solutions. Here, we don't just talk tech, we unlock the strategies, stories, and mindset shifts you need to stay secure, lead boldly, and thrive in a digital world. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Adaptive Mindset. Really happy to have Rankyn Campbell here with me today. He's the owner of Campbell Health and Rankyn helps people overcome their mental hurdles to live life as they always want it. So his driving mission is to deliver evidence-based culturally safe mental health care across people's lifespans. So through his program, his recently launched program, The Growth Room, he helps people unchain their personal growth, grow authentically, and lead a values-based life. Welcome to the show, Rankyn.

Brett Gallant

Yeah, thank you so much for having me, Brett and congratulations on launching this new podcast.

Rankyn Campbell

Thank you. Yeah. I'm, it's certainly been a new opportunity to talk to interesting people and, and learn about them and see how, how they've, how people have evolved with through mindset shifts and limiting beliefs and becoming ultimately their best self to serve and help people. Perhaps you could tell us a little bit about your background and why you, how you started Campbell Health and a bit about you.

Brett Gallant

Yeah, well, you know, obviously, I'm really passionate about this and mindset. I'm a therapist by trade. So I'm a psychotherapist. I've been practicing in the field for almost six years now, after, you know, graduating from grad school and stuff. So I launched Campbell Health, you know, that was my first business was was Campbell Health. And my mission was to end suicide and and provide culturally safe psychotherapy and mental health services to First Nations people and to rural Canadians. That was the initial idea. And that just blossomed out of recognizing as a youth, as a teenager. You know, I'm 32 years old now. So that was that was a little time ago. just that there was such a lack of resources in that area. So I was really passionate about that. And, you know, therapy, becoming a therapist is a constant process of self-discovery yourself and overcoming your own things, getting to know yourself on such a deep level so that you can sit with other people and help them do the same.

Yeah, and incredible. I know I'll be a little vulnerable here. I've actually had the privilege of having therapy and it's helped my life incredibly in just how I show up in the world. And having people in organizations like yours is so vital to help people to thrive. Sometimes we hold on to things that we need. need that professional help to guide them to work on whatever it is that's challenging them. And I know we had a past episode where we had a gentleman Joshua French that was on our podcast and he told the story about how someone showed up in his life at the right time because he was ready to commit suicide. And someone showed up in his life in a big powerful way and said, I need you here now. And had that man not showed up. we would not have had the pleasure of having Joshua with us today and he's impacting people's lives. So with what you're doing, you're helping many people, many families and the communities you serve in ways I believe you don't even comprehend sometimes or appreciate because it's an impactful way of helping people. thing that you're doing that's benefiting and helping so many people and communities, which I'm thankful that there's organizations like you that are helping.

Yeah, well, you know, I appreciate that. And of course, it's so much bigger than me, right? My team shows up. I'm so grateful to have an excellent team and to learn from them each and every day. And I always tell people, you know, I learn as much from anyone that I work with on the other side of the room as they do for me. So I'm humbled and honored to be able to do it. it does come with a big responsibility to constantly be doing my own work, right? Because that's not a one and done thing. That's not me going to therapy when I'm in university or through grad school. And then you put that on the shelf, you know, I think taking the approach that we can continuously get to know ourselves and continuously get to know ourselves and get to know how we relate to the world around us. And, um, it's actually quite exciting once you kind of just take that avenue or that mindset towards it, Brett, I think.

Yeah. So when did you know you were going to get into this field? Like what prompted you ultimately to say, Hey, I'm going to help people with mental health and thrive and become the best version of themselves ultimately? How did you discover that?

You know, it was something more of a spiritual entrance for me where I always felt that calling or that duty or responsibility from the time I was a kid. I was also really interested in academics and learning so I naturally kind of had that drive where I was going in that direction. I didn't know what that would look like if I would go into being a professor or being a medical doctor I couldn't, I couldn't hack the hard sciences. So I think I ended up with, with the psychology background. Um, but again, going back, you know, 15 years ago, there was lots of things that were happening. I'm from a small community and there was lots of things that were happening as you became a teenager that you realize, well, well, we, we don't really know what's going on here. you know, um, one of my dad's friends, uh, lost his battle to suicide. And I remember that being a really sad moment for me as a kid, I was 16 at the time. And that hit me really hard, you know, and I started to think about that. Wow. Like what, you know, you're at that point in your life too, or you're starting to, look at life in a different lens, you're starting to mature. So that was the initial calling, I guess. And then, you know, I, I, of course, like I said, I've gone to therapy, I was more of an anxious kind of subtype, more so than struggle with my mood or anything, had sort of perfectionistic tendencies. So all of those gave me all of those things gave me lots of roads to inquire about my own self and my own psyche and my own spirit, how I show up, uh, in life. So, you know, I, I continued down that path and, you know, found myself here. So it's been, it's been a long, it's been a journey for sure, but it's also been, um, you know, very humbled to be at that. I got this opportunity and it was a path that I was able to take.

Yeah. So along the way, what have you been most proud of being able to do with your journey? Like, I'm sure you've had some stories that you can share, you know, without breaching confidentiality that you've, that you've impacted people? Is there anything that you can share with what you've learned that may be able to inspire people to take action? Maybe it might inspire some people to consider therapy when they've maybe not realized that it's something that can help them, so.

Well, I guess what I'm most proud of personally is just the fact that my, you know, my heart's still alive. I still feel alive. I still feel optimistic. And I still feel those, those feelings that we feel as kids, you know, love and creativity and connection with other people, right. And caring and wanting, wanting, you know, believing in the world, I guess, you know, so I think when you really step back, that's what I'm most proud of. And that's something that I have to work with every day and get curious about, because I think what we're seeing in life right now is that, um, the world has a way of beating our best qualities out of us, right? We, we have those qualities when we're kids, right? We believe in the future. We want to show love, you know, but we want to be curious. We want to learn. We want to connect with people of all colors and races and sizes and shapes. Right. And I think as we get older, that gets beaten out of us, you know, we get wore down, we get cynical, we get short sighted, we get rigid. So when I step back on my life, whenever I, I always try to think, okay, how can I, how can I get out of this world? Or when my time comes, how can I still have those qualities? Right. And those qualities still show up for me. And, um, at least for myself, that's constant work, because that cynicism and stuff can creep in pretty quick.

Absolutely. It's interesting you brought that up. I was recently at a cybersecurity conference in San Diego, and one of the keynote people were talking about this great analogy. I know I won't do it justice, but I'm going to do my best attempt because I think it'll really hit home and it may help you and it'll be a big takeaway based on what you were saying. When we're children, we come to this world and we have this belief of the unlimited potential that we can do anything. And what happens, what he was saying is day by day, year by year, bricks were laid down. Bricks were laid down and put around that person. And the bricks got higher and higher and all that possibility and beliefs that you could do anything were put up. And then finally you get to this point where you have a chimney around you and you start having this self-doubt of limiting beliefs of what you can accomplish. And so sometimes in life, we have to break through those bricks and seize back to that childlike amazement and wonder that we can do it if we set our mind to it. Absolutely. And that's what I believe having therapy sometimes can be beneficial to realize you can take away those bricks. that are holding you back, some of that mindset, and even continuing to work on yourself, that you can eliminate that chimney and go after it. Because I really believe we're living in the best time right now, and we have all the tools of the kingdom. We just need to access those tools to engage ourselves to do what's possible.

Totally. Yeah, I love that analogy. It really creates a powerful visual, right? And it creates that hope, right? But we collect a lot of we collect a lot of ideas and concepts and beliefs about ourselves as we go through life. Of course, you know, that groundwork or, you know, I, you know, are to use a computer analogy, like our software is downloaded when we're young, you know, how we believe what we believe about the world and ourselves, but we kind of go through life and we just kind of pile on new code, new code, new code all the time without kind of opening it up and looking at, okay, What do I want to bring with me now? And why? Right. And I think, what am I leaving behind? Yeah.

That's no longer true for today or for what's going to bring me to the next step.

So, and, and oftentimes when people come to therapy or they're kind of started on that journey, they can feel, you know, there's a lot of difficult emotions and difficult experiences there. It's, um, that, that they're trying to process, right? They're trying to work through. And I think having somebody to sit in that space with and explore is where, you know, true healing, um, starts to happen. I think so from, from what I've seen and what I've been, like I said, privileged to be able to sit with other people as, as they go through that. So,

Yeah, and I can agree with that because my own therapy journey has helped me tremendously. And often, sometimes as men, we don't share that vulnerability, but I just believe in sharing it because If perhaps there's somebody listening right now that maybe has been on the fence about getting some help and therapy. And I would encourage any of you that have been considering it to open the door and look at that because on the other side of that is some incredible others, you know, working past whatever it is that you have on your heart can impact your life in ways you don't even comprehend. So.

So totally, totally. And that's a, that's a really, that's a really beautiful message for men. And I think that one way to even take that a step farther is like, if we think about our responsibility as human beings, I always think about my responsibility to do my own work so that I can show up in a way that is a net positive for others.

Yeah.

Right. So I think if we take that ethos that, you know, that, we actually have a responsibility to heal. Yeah. It can actually, it can give us the courage to, to do that work, right? Well, however, that may may be in for some people, that's therapy for some people that's talking to their doctor for some people, that's, you know, a religious ceremony, or it's getting to the crux of what's going on with them.

Yeah, for me, I like to get out and walk and that gives me that oxygen to show up and be the best version of me. There's this gentleman that I know that has come into my life. He often shares this message, who's missing out because you're not showing up. And so when you use the tools like therapy, it allows you to show up. And sometimes we hold back on showing up because whatever, you know, limiting belief that we have for ourselves and shifts that we have. I noticed, We talked a little bit at the beginning about the growth room. I'd love to hear a little bit more about that, Rankyn , perhaps you can tell me what the growth room is and how that can help people.

Yeah, for sure. Well, again, doing my own work, Um, and working with so many different types of, of people, um, through my career, you start to really notice and pick up on trends that a lot of people are kind of going through. And oftentimes in therapy, Brett, we'll see, you know, really big initial strong momentum or strong strides. Right. And that could be with whatever that person is coming in with. Um, and we'll see, you know, they're, they're getting sober or they're moving their direction in a way that they want. And I noticed all of a sudden they end up in my office and they're almost back to exactly where they started from. Okay. And it feels like a crash, like Humpty Dumpty falling off the wall, so to speak. And they're like, they come in and when you, you listen to them, they don't really know how it happened. It's almost as if it was unconscious, right? It wasn't planned. They didn't plan to go use, or they didn't plan to have that huge fight with their with their spouse or to kind of go blow up their life again.

Yeah.

So I started to get curious about this. And then I also noticed the pattern in my own life. I would make really big initial strides. I would work really, really hard at something, you know, I'd be really diligent. And then I would wake up in six or eight months and I would have a big setback and I would kind of be like, geez, what just happened there? How did that happen? So I started to, again, really look at, from a mental standpoint, self-sabotage. Why do we sabotage our own growth? You know, we start the new year and everybody has new goals and they want to get fit and they want to have better relationships and they want to have better mental health and they want to make more money.

Then they get to quitter's day.

Yeah, exactly. Right. So, and I started looking at self-sabotage and that was the idea behind the growth room is how can I bring these different professionals together to help them overcome self-sabotage, to understand it from a psychological perspective, right, to bring it from the unconscious into the conscious awareness, and then from there lay the foundation for true growth that comes from the self.

Okay.

Because what happens in a lot of programs and a lot of fit, again, I'm getting long-winded, but we make those initial strides, but we don't sustain it over time. We crash back down. And people are actually quite uncomfortable when they have success.

Because they go back to where they're comfortable.

They go back to where they're comfortable. So the crux of the growth room is really getting to the psychological principles behind this and where people are getting hemmed up. And it brings together brings together people on a weekly call and creates that.

Also, it's a group coaching group, like a group, it's not like a course, but it's actually a group session, if you will.

Yeah, for sure. And again, it's just, it's part of my practice now at Campbell Health. And I wanted to bring this out into the world, so to speak. And the cool thing about it is like, you know, you don't need a diagnosis. You don't need to be really necessarily even struggling. You just need to be somebody that wants to grow and wants to lead a values-based life. And the life that you want to lead is going to look differently than mine, the life that I want to lead. There's probably going to be some overlap, but that's okay. Well, we have to break through self-sabotage. And once we kind of get the mental skills to be able to do that, then we set up the ingredients to overcome our inner critic and kind of some different as a therapist to lead that life that you want to live. That's the ethos of the growth room.

Nice. So perhaps we can put, we'll put a link to it in the notes so people can, how would they find out more about the growth room? Is there a website or can they DM you?

Yeah, absolutely. So the first thing I would say is that they could follow me on LinkedIn and subscribe to my newsletter, which kind of gives weekly updates about it. And I'm going to hold an absolutely free introduction to the Growth Room at the end of the month. where people can sign up and just attend and kind of get the background on what it is. And from there, they can decide if they want to participate.

And will that will that be a monthly end of the month where you have that or be just the end of the.

I will I will I will have one of those calls every month. I don't have the dates right now for February. Perfect. My first cohort is already up and running. And what I'm going to do is continuously have new people join. It's right now it's it's set up as synchronous. So there's a start and a finish. Okay. So because again, I want people to get that base, that base of like, those key three to five weeks of what are their core beliefs? Where are they running into self-sabotage? And how can we unpack that? And then we're going to unchain their own growth. They're going to go on their own journey, where over time, I really hope they don't even need me.

perfect, but you know, there's a wonderful resource available for everyone to take advantage that could help them along their journey. So it's definitely, we'll have some, in addition to DMing Rankyn , we'll have some info in the show notes folks. So I'm excited for that. So have you, When you look to the future, the next three to five years for you, what do you see for Campbell Health and for you and along your journey? I know that's a loaded question, but it's the first time I've asked it, but I felt inspired to ask you today.

I appreciate that question. And my answer goes back to kind of how I answered your question about what I'm most proud of. Yeah, right. I'm not most proud of the fact that I have x number of psychologists or clinicians working for me, or we've seen x number of patients. You know, or I drive a certain vehicle. What I when I really sit back with myself, that's what I'm most proud of. And that's what I want to continue. Yeah, is to be able to kind of lead from my true self and continuously do my own work so that I show up each day excited to learn and grow. And when I can learn and grow personally, that leads into my professional life. That's how the growth room surfaced. Of course, that means me being vulnerable or taking risks or putting myself out there and subject to criticism, all those things that are difficult. I see my soul. So that would be the first answer to your question, because, you know, and I'll be honest, there's been at times in my entrepreneurial journey, and even as a therapist, where I haven't shown up that way, I've felt burnout, I've felt cynical, I've, I've got, I've got eroded, right? I've got beaten down. And, you know, fortunately, I was able to work through that I hired my own, like I hired my own coaches, and I have my own therapist, lean on so i was always able to show up ethically but learning from that those situations is like that's gonna be key for me going forward.

Yes, yeah, absolutely. I look at the field that you're in and it's just, the potential for how you can impact people is just tremendous. And I'm grateful that there are people like you, especially in the world we live in, where I feel we need professionals like yourself, even more so now than ever. And it's great that people are able to take advantage of having therapy. Pivoting for a second, I know for me, I love reading and I like listening to thought leaders that inspire me. What's one book and some thought leaders that inspire you, Rankyn , that perhaps you can share? One book and two thought leaders that really light you up.

You can see I smile when you ask that question. Yeah, yeah. I think my girlfriend would laugh because I'm always talking about books until she drowns me out, I think, and puts on her headphones after a while.

A hundred percent. I'm with you. I'm with you.

But I think, well, somebody that I look up to is Ryan Holiday. So he he is an excellent author that brings stoicism into the modern world. So he's a bit of a modern day philosopher. Yeah. And again, stoicism, I think it's a bad rap, especially from therapists, because at surface level, it can feel like you're avoiding your emotions, or you're you're kind of being that that stoic, you're being cold, right. But that is, again, just the surface level kind of stereotype around that philosophy. And and what I appreciate about his writing is that he brings kind of those those age old human tendencies to the surface and our ego and our pride and how we show up as our ourselves and how we show up in relationships.

Yeah.

So He's an excellent, excellent author. I think for anybody looking to, you know, you can follow him online, of course, and he's got lots of programs. I'm actually part of one of his programs. So I've, I've learned a lot from him. So, uh, Ryan holiday is, is one that I would, I would highly recommend.

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously when your face lit up, when you started talking about him, so, you know, and, and I have, uh,

I have a long list of authors. Like I said, I think that, uh, we have back to the beliefs, like as we age, and as we go through the world, one of the biggest thing is that our beliefs, whether they're helpful or unhelpful, or from a Buddhist term that would be skillful or unskillful, regardless of, of what they are, they tend to become more rigid. Okay, they tend to become more rigid and global. So global means they apply to everything, they apply to everybody in our life, or, you know, they're like a timestamp. So what I would challenge anyone to do is to read curiously, read with an open mind, a beginner's mind. And that's something that I've really taken away from diving into Buddhism is to find that beginner's mind again. And every book I read, yeah, yeah, try to go at it, because of course, we download all our beliefs, maybe we come from a Christian faith, and we believe this, or we went to a certain school, and we believe this, or our dads worked at the mill, and we believe this about the world. yeah and we tend to label a lot of things as good or bad right but yes whether you're reading about stoicism or buddhism or psychology or money or business trying to just show up with a true beginner's mind when you crack the book That's a lot harder than it sounds.

Yeah, I can appreciate that. Sometimes we come in with our own perceptions of our own beliefs and we may not be open to really exploring a new idea or a new thought from another perspective. And sometimes we have to be up on that mountain, if you will, and looking at things from a 30,000, 40,000 viewpoint. And with that curiosity to absorb another perspective or a new idea to raise your awareness. So.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And two truths can exist at once, right? from stoicism, and you can still practice your faith, whatever that may be, or you can read about a, you can read a religious text, or you can read a modern day spiritual text, you know, another author that I love, who's would be my favorite author probably is, is Paulo Coelho. Okay. And he writes from a very spiritual perspective. But his books, you know, I think The Alchemist is one of the top selling books of all time. He's got a number of great, great books for anyone that's interested in kind of exploring that part of their life too.

Nice. So Rankyn , we've, we've dived into quite a bit today. and it's been a really enlightening conversation. If there was one thing that you could say to anybody that can impact their lives, what would you say to them and encourage them to do just to inspire them or in terms of their mindset and belief system? What would be the best piece of advice or encouragement that you would share with the world? It's your stage right now. So.

I always take this stance as a therapist that I'm not an expert on their lives. They are the expert. I help them pull back different parts of themselves so that their true self can lead. And our true selves, that self that's been with us since the time we were born, um, has all the wisdom and knowledge and caring and compassion and curiosity and intelligence that we need to navigate the world.

Yeah.

What happens is over time, we develop these other parts of our psyche that want to take control all the time. Okay. And I would just remind them that they have everything that they need inside. they just may need to work on kind of asking some old frozen parts of themselves to step back and to let their true self lead. And that is something that they can discover, you know, with, you know, by sitting with themselves or by working with a therapist or by by looking just looking internally but oftentimes we go searching for the answers outside we want this expert to tell us how to lead our lives or we want the doctor to or the teacher or the religious leader i believe it's my ethos that like our true self has the knowledge our true self has all of the knowledge and all that we do through therapy and all of that is is kind of ask the other parts of ourselves to step back so our true self can lead again

It's so true. I've heard that in another way before. And one of the coaches I had said, hey, Brett, just show up and be the best version of you and let that person shine. And when I heard that piece of advice, Rankyn , I actually heeded that and I went into a presentation and all that anxiety I had, was melted away. I just came and was me. That person deep down that was me, you know, that playful, silly side, that person that's compassionate, that person was there. Sometimes we obscure that a bit because we're afraid or we have that imposter syndrome, but everything, like you said, everything is deep inside you. You just have to let it shine. Definitely.

We learn as we grow up that we have these experiences as we grow up. And as we go through life, that we lose confidence in our true self, we believe we have to show up as somebody else we believe we and you know, that's kind of where imposter syndrome comes from. And yeah, these different disorders and different anxieties and things, right. But yeah, it's kind of working, you know, and they may need to do it through therapy, but working to kind of get back to that place. And I guess I would leave you with this is that, yeah, We talk a lot about resilience, right on mindset podcasts, or we see the reels on Instagram and be tough, be strong, bounce back. I think what a lot of people are missing is that forgiveness and compassion are the precursors to resilience, right? So we can't bounce back and jump up and challenge ourselves again and face this world. without first learning how to show up compassionately and with a forgiving heart for that person that we were when we fell.

Yeah.

Okay. And, and, and I think that's something that's really, really missing, uh, from the mindset world right now in the 2025 split second, Instagram reels. Yeah. Is that, you know, forgiveness and compassion are the precursors to resilience. And if we try to jump to resilience without first learning those two, it's not, it's just, it just doesn't work.

Wow, I'm really thankful you shared that. That's impactful. And Rankyn , it was such a pleasure to have you today. We'll have to do this again. And folks, please connect with Rankyn . Check out the Growth Room. I know you'll be glad you did. And Rankyn , I really appreciate you being with us today. Thank you so much.

Yeah, thank you, Brett. I appreciate it as well.

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